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The Freedom of Being "Out of the Loop"

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Looping yourself out of every aspect of your business can be a bit terrifying. But it's also incredibly liberating. Hear why on today's show.

On today’s show, I talk with Joe Babi who’s building his own SEO agency. Not long ago, Joe found himself overworked and missing out on important life events. That’s when he realized he HAD to make a change. 

So over the last year or two, Joe has scaled his agency in a way that loops him out of his business more and more.

Being okay with being "out of the loop" can be a real challenge, but it also opens up all kinds of freedom, opportunity, and growth for your business.

If you ever feel burned out or like you’re a bottleneck in your own business, this episode is for you.

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Freelance to Founder Podcast Art

Real freelancers. Real growth.

Freelance to Founder is a unique weekly podcast featuring coaching calls co-hosted by Clay and Preston, two freelancers-turned-business-builders. Instead of typical interviews, each week a new freelancer calls in to talk with Clay and Preston with one goal in mind: overcoming the feast/famine cycle and scaling their service business. The highly acclaimed, top-rated podcast is a weekly dive into what it really takes to go from freelance to founder.

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